Purchased a set of irons, Don't know why exactly

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DON
Purchased a set of irons, Don't know why exactly

Last week I received and E-mail from Titleist about a new set of irons they were releasing, so I went to their site to have a look just for fun. I could NOT believe the price of the new irons, more for ONE club then I'd be willing to pay for a full set. I ended up on E-bay looking at some other Titleist irons and found a few used sets of their AP2 irons up for auction. Some at a decent price which got my interest. I ended up bidding on a few sets and at the end I won the bidding on a set of 714 AP2 irons, 4-PW with S flex Nippon steel shafts and brand new grips. With shipping and tax it came to a little less than $275 in total. The photos of the clubs look pretty good, little or no signs of use. The soles of ALL of the clubs look bright and polished, just like new. If the clubs look as good in person as they do in the photos I'll be very happy with my purchase. NOT sure what made me buy them as I sure do NOT need more irons. But the price was pretty good for a nice set of forged Titleist irons and I figure I now have a good reason to get back out to the practice range and hit some balls again. If for no other reasont than to see how I like the new clubs. First plan is to hit the clubs as is. Then decide if I like the shafts enough to pull them and do a full Spine and FLO alignment job ot all 7 shafts. That will mean pulling the new grips as well, so IF I do not like the new Tacky Mac grips they have on them I can just replace them with some half cord grips I happen to have on hand in my shop. 

From what I understand, the Nippon Tour Stiff shafts are pretty much a Japanese equilant of the TT Dymamic Gold shafts that are some of the best steel shafts made. This will give me a chance to see if that is true or not. If I do not like them I have some options available as I have a few sets of iron shafts in my shop to consider using in the Titleist AP2 heads. 

Here is a link to what I purchase with photos of the clubs.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Titleist-Forged-714-Irons-4-PW-Stiff-Nippon-Tour-120-Steel-Shafts-New-Grips-/124348496035?nma=true&si=WJTr7pxbpvGLmkFun0ibxqDD2vM%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

The are due to arrive Monday of next week so it will not be too long before I know if I just wasted my money or not. Wish me luck guys. 

DON
Nippon Tour 120 shafts

After I posted this about my recent purchase, I went online to see what I could find out about the Nippon Tour shafts that are in the irons. Turns out the Modus 120 grams shafts are very simular in both feel and performance to the Projects X shafts from True Temper. I found a review that compared them to the Project X, Dymamic X and the Modus 130 steel shafts. I have a set of irons with the Project X shafts now and i like them very much, so I don't think I will have any issues with the Nippon shafts, expecially atter I do the Spine and FLO alignment work on them and re-install them so they play to their maximun. 

Don

Putting is easy if you have the Right Putter.

Aimee
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Good luck

Don, good luck. My pro used to play those (not sure if AP1 or 2) but I know the AP2 were very highly regarded.

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Scott Rushing
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Keep us posted Don..Sounds

Keep us posted Don..Sounds like a good deal.  I know people like those irons.  I have never hit them actually.  But sounds like a good reason to get back to the range.

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DON
They Came in Today.

My new  to me set of irons got here today. According the the listing, they were supposed to be in pretty good condition with new grips and not much wear and tear. The photos in the listing did NOT show much of the club faces, only the back of the heads and the soles. The soles look BRAND NEW to me. So i was a bit woried about how mcuh use the faces would show. when I had them in my hands. 

Truth be told, the clubs look BETTER than I had hoped for. Little to NO signs of use on the faces of 5 of the club, and only minor scatches on the PW and 8 iron faces. I would be willing to BET money that if I was to hit a small bucket of range balls off the ground or a mat, they would show a LOT more wear than they do now. Take a BRAND NEW wedge and hit ten balls from a bunker and it will show a lot more wear then these clubs from 2013-2015. The grips were said to be new and they look like it to me. Looks like they were re-griped just so they could sell them in fact. The color is NOT what I would buy but they feel good in my hands so that's what matters most. IF they have seen 2 or 3 rounds of golf I would be surprised, they look that nice. My current plan is to take them to the range and hit some balls with them as is. Then decide if I like the grips enough to use them or replace them with some new grips I have in my shop. I plan to pull all fo the shafts so I can do the Spine and FLO alignment on them before re-installing them in the clubheads. I NEED to pull the grips off the shaft to do that work, so whether I re-use these green grips or go with some others, it's the same amount of work for me. And as I menitoned in another post, I want to try unstalling a RIB on the under side of the shafts under the grips and that will be the same job with what ever grips I decide to use. The Tacki-Mac grips sell for $3.50 each so if I like them when I test the clubs, I might just use them rather than have a set of once used grips on hand. 

As of right now, I'm very happy with the clubs and what I paid for them it this really good condition. I'd rate them a being a good 9 out of 10 for sure. I'll let everyone know more after I get a chance to hit some balls and decide on where to go from there. As you know, we have wild fires burning to the west of Denver, and we are DOWN wind, so we have a lot of smoke in the air now and going outside is NOT recommended if you can avoid it, so not sure when I want to got out to hit balls and breath in a lot of smokely air. 

Don

Putting is easy if you have the Right Putter.

Scott Rushing
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Nice bonus there Don.   Very

Nice bonus there Don.   Very nice.  You never know what you'll get...nice to find out it was better than you hoped.  Maybe they were from a demo set or on display like set somewhere.   Or maybe from someone like my dad..who will buy a set (another set) and try it a few clubs in the back yard...and then maybe never hit them again.

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DON
Still working on the clubs.

I'm still working on the clubs. Measured the swing weight of each and they are C9-D0. so way too low for what I perfer, D4-D5. I pulled the grips and then pulled the shafts. Did a spine and FLO alignment on each shaft and figuure out exactly how I want to re-install them in the heads. I weighted the heads and they are right on the numbers according to what they should be. NOT sure why the swing weights are so low with the heads beings correct weights. I"m making some custom made lead weights to go into the hosel end of the shafts to bring the SW up to D4-5 I want. After I assemble the clubs I will add a SensoCore type insert into each shaft to reduce vibrations. Then add the steel rods to the undsrside of the shaft and then install new grips. Should have everything ready to take to the range for a DEMO DAY pretty soon. so that will be fun. I also have a LAG SHOT swing training club coming in for a test and review for this site, so with luck I can test the clubs and the Lag Shot at the same time at the range. The Lag Shot club is supposed to get here tomorrow, Thursday, I should have some results to repost back to you guys and gals by early next week.

Don

Putting is easy if you have the Right Putter.

DON
New AP2 irons ready for a test at the range

Well it took a bit longer than I had planned, but the Titleiest AP2 irons are now ready for a test range session. Got the shafts Spine and FLO aligned and added some lead weights to the tip of the shafts to get the swing weight up to D4-5 where I like it. Added the rib feature to the underside of the shaft and installed new Black Widow gripss. The clubs look great and feel good in my hands. The Rib feature is just about perfect in terms of feeling it in my hands. NOT too much of a ridge, but enough to feel it and KNOW I have the face of each club square to the target and now open or closed at address. Just what I was looking for. If I like the way the Rib works at the range, I can add the same feature to my wedges without a lot of trouble, now that I know exact how to do the job with very little work. 

Weaterh is supposed to warm up to mid 50's to low 60's by thursday so I should be able to get out then to hit the new clubs and see how I like them and the rib feature. I'll get back to you guys after I know more and can say if my new iron purchase was a good idea or a waste of time and money. 

Don

Putting is easy if you have the Right Putter.

Scott Rushing
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Nice Don.  hopefully you'll

Nice Don.  hopefully you'll get some time with them at the range.  Saw you guys had some snow last weekend?  I was watching the KC Denver game..snowy and cold.

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DON
COLD and SNOW

We got both the cold and the snow over the weekend. Got 6 inches here in Aurora where we live. Denver got 4 officially. Got super COLD overnight as well. MINUS 1.5 at my house. High the next day was a whopping 14 degrees, new record for LOW high for the date. Good news is that the snow and cold did a nice job of knoching down some of the wild fires in the state. Did NOT put them out, but sure slowed them down a lot. Bad newes is we have more warm weather  and HIGH winds due by this weekend and they are pretty sure that will bring the fires back to life again for more problems for the people that live in the mountains and for the fire fighers as well. The got 2-3 feet of snow in some of the fire areas, and that was NOT enough to put the fires out, only put a damper on things for a few days. At least that gave the fire fighters a chance to get a few days rest before heahing back out to deal with the fire and smoke. 

Don

Putting is easy if you have the Right Putter.

DON
Got out to the range Friday

Got out to the range Friday to hit the AP2 irons. LOVE the feel and how the rib grips are working out. It's been very long since I hit balls this year, might be over a YEAR since I last hit a golf ball in anger. NOT a good start to my range session with some really bad swings and terrible ball contact. Took a few swing to get some of the RIST off the old body, but it did get better after awhile. Worked on hitting the AP2 7 iron to see how well I could hit it and how fast I was swinging the club. Got up to 92 MPH with the 7 iron, which is not too bad for me. The BEST swing of the day was the FIRST swing I made with my 24*  9 wood. Hit the ball right down the center of the range, went nice and high with excellent carry, from a swing spedd of 110 MPH. That was a BIG surprise for sure. Had another one at 104 which was nice to go with the 110.  

NO opinion on the AP2 irons yet. I did NOT swing well enough to say if they are good or bad. I did NOT hate them but I did NOT Love them either. Will have to hit them again when I can put some decent swing together before I can say one way or another. From what little I learned from Fridays session, I think they will be okay at least. The heads are NOT that much different from 3 other sets of forged irons I currently have to compare them to. I"m thinking at least 2 more range sessions will be needed before I can make a call on them. They LOOK good, FEEL good, If they perform as well as they look and feel I'l be happy. Time will tell I guess.

Don

Putting is easy if you have the Right Putter.