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Scott Rushing
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So I don't know if I said this or not, but I recently bought a laser range finder. I have noticed this year the courses I play are more often than not NOT accurately marking the pin placement. Whether they use the color of the flags or those little flags the place on the flagpole itself to show whether it's closer to the front or back - I'm finding more and more often they are not even close. Seems like the greenskeepers aren't doing a good job. So I decided to get one in addition to the Skycaddie. Now at least when I'm hitting a shot into the green, I can shoot the flag and get a more accurate number rather than guessing from their flag colors.

I bought a Leopold which my Dad said makes great scopes for rifles. Thus far I love it. Have to anchor myself to the cart to keep me steady enough to get good number.

But I like it .. Will do a review of it soon. This one also has an attachment that gives you elevation adjustments for uphill and downhill. That's nice.

S

Aimee
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I always found that function interesting (of course, not legal for tournament play), that slope function. I'd be curious to hear how that works for you on a very elevated green. We have one we play which is probably 2 clubs extra to get up the hill.

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scomac
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A friend that I play with periodically has a Bushnell. I always thought that a range finder was a great idea until I played with someone that used one. ISTM that he rarely pulls the device out more than once or twice a round just to confirm a tee box yardage as much as anything. For some reason it seems to be a fussy thing to use to get an accurate reading, so I suspect that plays into why he isn't "shooting" every second yardage the foursome faces.

My eyes aren't the best anymore, so I suspect that working a rangefinder has passed my best before date. I used to be an avid photographer, but have pretty much given up on it due to the overall poor quality of photos I have taken in the past couple of trips. I can still "see" the shot, it's just that I don't seem to be capable to set-up a decent exposure anymore with corrective lenses getting in the way.

I've come to the conclusion that my golf game will just have to get by on stepping off yardages based on the markers and hoping that they're close enough. I'm finding that local conditions -- wind, rough, humidity -- are having a bigger impact on proper club selection than having a precise yardage for my game. Such is the case I guess with a less than consistent ball striker.

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Thus far it's been helpful

Thus far it's been helpful getting an idea of how much uphill some holes are. I played a practice round on a course that was part of a 2 day event and it was nice to know that this hole was +7 yards for the elevation and that one was -5. I think it helped though I still had to hit the shot and hit the distance I intended.

Sco, I understand your point. And I don't disagree. With my longer shots, hell I could be 10 - 20 yards off on how far any particular shot goes. But I'm getting at least decently consistent on my approach shots and it's nice at least knowing which iron to pull out of the bag IF I hit the shot right. Which is a big if some days...HA

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Aimee
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I guess that's why I prefer the GPS which gives front/center/back distances. I can move the locator on my screen when it is showing the green to approximate the pin location...which as Scomac says, is probably close enough for my level of accuracy. That is why knowing how much room I have to play with for the whole depth of the green is good for me, I will look at what club will keep me from flying the green or coming up short if not struck perfectly. I guess people who use rangefinders look at the yardage to the pin and factor that in mentally.

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DON
Love my Leopold.

I've got a Hunting model with slope so it's pretty much the same features as the golf version you got. I just about ALWAYS rest my hands and the laser on my golf bag to hold it steady. This works great and it very easy to do and doesn't take any extra time to do. Like Scott just found out. a Laser is GREAT for approach shots to get the EXACT yardage to the flag, no matter where it my be on the green. With my hunting model, RX-3 if I remember correctly. I have gotten reading off of flags out to over 350 yards. so it's pretty much good to ANY yardage I will ever need a measurement to. I currently use BOTH a GPS and a Laser when I play golf. One extra bonus with the Laser is that I can use it at the driving range to get reading to the flags they have to aim at. NO need to GIESS how far away they are when my laser will get me the exact yardage so I KNOW for a fact how far I'm hitting each of my clubs.

Don

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Scott Rushing
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Aimee, I am using both on

Aimee, I am using both on approaches. I just got frustrated that I'd see a red flag on the green, hit to the front yardage and find out that it was really middle. But I do still check the skycaddie for those yardages, for 2 reasons...1 because I don't totally trust my shooting of the flag yet...and 2) to see how much leeway I have when I'm in between clubs.

Thus far the slope adjustment has been real nice. I'm learning how much a 5 yrd elevation looks like and a -7 yard change looks like. So especially on courses I'm not familiar with I think it's a nice feature to have.

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Aimee
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using both certainly sounds like a good hybrid solution. I hear you about those flag locations, have gotten burned by "wrong" color on a few occasions. Someone I played with recently had a laser that didn't need a reflector to bounce off, he said he could shoot any object and get yardage, which certainly makes them more useful.

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DON
Reflectors

NONE of the laser NEED a reflector to get a reading, but the do HELP. My laser will give me readings off of a tree or the lip of a bunker if I aim at it. The Smoother and more Reflective the surface of what you shoot and stronger the signal will be and the easier it will be to get a good reading. Deer are NOT very reflective and getting a yardage to a deer or elk is what my laser was designed for, so getting a yardage off a flag or tree is pretty simple.

Don

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Yeah, my experience has been

Yeah, my experience has been that with a reflector on the flagstick, the distance locks in almost immediately. Otherwise it's still fast but like I said I hit it 3 or 4 times to make sure I get the same number.

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You'll get used to it Scott

Some times I do it twice if I'm in doubt, but once you get more comfortable with your readings, I think you'll target the flag once or twice at most and believe what you're getting, especially if you get the same readings both times. After a few more rounds you'll come to trust the laser. and love having it in your bag.

Don

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DON
slope data???

I have a question for your about your laser, and mine as well, about the slope data feature. As we both know, we can NOT use a laser with the slope data during a tournament, even IF that event allows one to use a laser or GPS. And now for my question. IF I remember correctly, you are not allowed to use a devise that has the slope data feature, EVEN if you turn it OFF. From what I read about the ruling, IF the device has the ability of having slope data, you can NOT use the device. It does NOT matter whether you turn it off or not, it can NOT be used in a tournament. You might want to check this out to be sure, but that was my understanding of the rules when they first okayed the use of lasers and GPS units during a tournament. This ruling is from what I've heard is the MAIN reason the sell units with and without and slope data feature. IF I'm correct, I'm I the same boat as you are for tournament use, as my laser has the same features, and turning it OFF is not good enough for the GPA people.

Don

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DON
NO Slope data

I was thinking that a device that was able to provide slope data was NOT legal for use during a round, EVEN IF that feature was turned off. So I went to the USGA site and looked up the rule. Here is a copy of the rule on distance measuring devices.

5. Distance-Measuring Devices (Rule 14-3)

During a stipulated round, the use of any distance measuring device is not permitted unless the Committee has introduced a Local Rule to that effect (see Note to Rule 14-3 and Appendix I; Part B; Section 9).

Even when the Local Rule is in effect, the device must be limited to measuring distance only. Features that would render use of the device contrary to the Local Rule include, but are not limited to:
•the gauging or measuring of slope;
•the gauging or measuring of other conditions that might affect play (e.g., wind speed or direction, or other climate-based information such as temperature, humidity, etc.);
•recommendations that might assist the player in making a stroke or in his play (e.g., club selection, type of shot to be played, green reading or any other advice related matter); or
•calculating the effective distance between two points based on slope or other conditions affecting shot distance.

Such non-conforming features render use of the device contrary to the Rules, irrespective of whether or not:
•the features can be switched off or disengaged; and
•the features are switched off or disengaged.

A multi-functional device, such as a smartphone or PDA, may be used as a distance measuring device provided it contains a distance measuring application that meets all of the above limitations (i.e., it must measure distance only). In addition, when the distance measuring application is being used, there must be no other features or applications installed on the device that, if used, would be in breach of the Rules, whether or not they are actually used.

As you can see.it doesn't matter if you turn off the slope feature, you still can NOT use the device. So it seems my laser is NOT legal for use during a round for at least TWO reasons. First is that it tells me the ANGLE to the green, UP hill or DOWN in degrees. And it can also give me the Temperture on the course. Neither is legal features on any device.

Don

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Scott Rushing
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Interesting. Because the

Interesting. Because the Leopold that i bought has a way of getting around that. The device itself is NOT capable to give you elevation changes UNLESS you alter the main device and add something to it. I wonder if that's how they get around it: because natively the device doesn't do it. It's not until you add something to it ( a snap on chip-based cover) that it can do it. Because according to their website and sales ads, the device I bought is legal when it doesn't use that add-on.

"The revolutionary Smart Key technology now conforms to USGA Rule 14-3.

The GX-4i2 has been permitted for use under the rules of golf when Local Rule is in effect, per the United States Golf Association (Rule 14-3/0.5). To use the GX-4i2 in tournament play, remove the patented yellow Smart Key faceplate from the rangefinder and replace it with the chrome faceplate. This renders the True Golf Range (TGR) and Club Selector functions inoperable, giving you instant, laser-accurate, Line-of-Sight (LOS) ranging up to 800 yards."

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And speaking of rangefinders,

And speaking of rangefinders, my Skycaddie battery life is shrinking. Now I didn't have time to get it fully charged this morning before my round, but it was over half way according to the charging diagram at the time, but it didn't make it a full round. Luckily I was playing badly anyway so I didn't care. But I will have to let it fully charge and pay close attention to how it functions next time.

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DON
Smart Key technology

Interesting detail about your laser. What I would recommend is that you do NOT have the Yellow Smart Key faceplate WITH you when you play in any event. Just having it in your bag or on your person would be enough to cause problems. IF it's IN your bag, someone could make an issue of it, so it would be wise to avoid this problem before it happens. Smart move on the part of Leopold to design the laser in this way. Best of both I'd say.

Don

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DON
Battery life

If this happens again, you might be in need of a new battery for your GPS. I saw a lot of replacement batteries for your gps for sale on ebay the other day for around $13.00. Might be worth the investment if you have the same problem again.
ONE thing I noticed with my SGXw is that the battery charged up to around 80% pretty fast, but then the last 20 % took a LOT longer to finish. This is pretty common with todays high end batteries. I see the same thing with my NOOK HD plus while charging it, last 10 % takes a long time to get up to full.

Don

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Well, I didn't notice that

Well, I didn't notice that the unit was easily open-able Don, but maybe it is. I assumed it was a non-replaceable battery like my last cell phone. But maybe not! I'll have to look at that.

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Battery

Here's the web address for a replacement battery. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Battery-for-SkyGolf-SkyCaddie-SGXw-SkyCaddie-SGX...
The battery door is held in with 3 small screws. so you'd want to carry a torx wrench to remove the door. You might be able to use the SGX with the door OFF the unit, IF you have one of the rubber boots that go over the back of the unit. This would work as a cover for the battery compartment to keep the insides clean, and it would make it supper easy to change out the battery if all you needed to do was remove the rubber cover.

Don

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Thanks Don. I will pick on

Thanks Don. I will pick on up. Nice to have a backup in the bag in case I forget to charge it.

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So I think I'm realizing that

So I think I'm realizing that my rangefinder, that gives me the slope adjusted difference may have one slight flaw..I don't get down on the ground at ball level when I shoot the pin. I stand 6ft up so when it's adjusting the 'plays like' distance to the pin, that's up to a 2 yard change if I'm taller than the pin but the ball isn't. Now I realize that's not a lot but I noticed that one time when the pin was elevated, it showed it being a downhill shot because I was standing taller than the pin even though the green was taller than the ball. Just an interesting observation...

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DON
NOT an issue if you think about it.

Scott: I understand your point BUT you are forgetting ONE thing. IF you are standing up and are say 6 feet tall. AND the flag is about 7 feet up in the air, this makes the ground under your feet and the level of the cup about the SAME difference. So it negates the issue. Since the FLAG and your LASER are both about the same distance OFF the ground. NOT an issue. I hope the way I'm wording this makes sense to everyone out there.

Don

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Battery Cover for SGX

I removed the battery cover from my SGXw and here is what I found. The 3 screws that hold the cover in place are NOT needed at all IF you use one of those Silicone Skins they sell for the GPS. The battery cover "SNAPS" in place and the screws are NOT needed to hold it in place, it stays on pretty well all by itself, even with OUT the silicone skin. So there is NO reason to use the screws which will make it super easy to change out the battery as needed during a round. Just remove the silicone skin, pull off the battery cover and switch out the battery. Easy as Pie.

Don

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DON
Silicone Skins

I just purchased a White silicone skin for my SGXw off E-bay. They were selling them for $9.99 with free shipping but had a 'Make an Offer" option. So I offered them $5.00 and they accepted my offer. If you are going to buy a skin for your SGX check out E-bay and look for the ad from Second Swing Golf. That's where I got mine from for $5.00.

Don

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