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Sky Caddy SGX w

I just purchased a used SGXw with WiFi connectivity. I already have a decent GPS but this SGXw has a 3 inch screen compared to the 2 inch screen on my Sonocaddie unit. And after my recent Cataract surgery, my close up vision is a lot WORSE than it was and I can use all the help I can get reading the screen. I have NO idea if this SGXw is as good as Sky Golf claims it is, but I guess I'm about to find out. My unit arrived about an hour ago and is charging up as I type this. Can't wait to play with it in the DEMO mode to see how it work and how well I can read the screen.

If any of you know anything about the SGXw, either Good or Bad. I'd appreciate it if you would post your comments. I know they have a new model coming out any day now, but I didn't want a TOUCH model at a much higher price than I paid for my used unit in MINT condition. I'll let you know what I think of the SGXw after I get a chance to play with it and try it out on the course.

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I have the NON wifi version

I have the NON wifi version and I like it. Unless you activate it with Skycaddie (annual fee) I guess you get the basic yardages to the front/center/back of the greens...is that right? All and all I like the unit. Sort of wish it had replaceable batteries because mine gets not quite 2 rounds in before it quits on me...so I have to charge it or carry a little battery pack with me ...

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Aimee
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Skycaddie

I have had my Skycaddie (2.5 model, the least expensive one they made) and I still think it's a great tool. I also get 2 rounds from one charge (I'm guessing it holds for around 10 hours, since it's not completely used up by the end of the 2nd round). No accuracy issues, no operational issues after at least 5 years?

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Thanks guys.

Thanks you two. I believe you are correct Scott about what it gives you if you don't sign up for membership. You are supposed to be able to download like 10 detailed course maps for 30 days from the date of purchase, but since I got mine used, I doubt I'll be able to do that, so I'm thinking Ill play with it AS IS for a bit while my eyes get completely settled down, and then buy a membership. The unit I got looks like Brand New. The screen still have to factory protective film on it, so I doubt it had been used much. I'm thinking of maybe buying a Car charger for it so I can re-charge it on the way home from the course and maybe TOP off the battery on the way to the course for the next round. That should allow me to get two rounds in safely. Or I could just use the wall charge after I get home and have a full battery at the start of every round and forget about the car charger.
Aimee, Funny you should mention the 2.5 model. When my SGXw arrived it came with a PINK silicone SKIN for the 2.5 model, brand new in the factory SkyGolf box. It doesn't fit my SGXw so I'm hoping I can trade it in at Golf Smith for something I can use with the unit. It think they sell for $20 so I'm hoping I can exchange it for either a car charger or a belt clip, both of which I don't have at the moment. It came with a Black silicone skin which has a button on the back to go with a belt clip, so I'm going to use the belt chip from my Sonocaddie until I can pick up a new clip.
I played with the SGXw a little and it looks like I will be able to read it with OUT reading glasses at the course. I have a pair of Golf sunglasses with a bifocal at the TOP. As you know if you have regular bifocal glasses, they don't work very well when you tip your head down. But with the bifocal at the TOP, it doesn't get in the way hitting balls and I can still use them for reading the GPS or the Score card yardages. I'm hoping I don't have to rely on the bifocal glasses for reading the GPS but it's an option if I need it.

Don

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Aimee
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Belt clip

The belt clip is the best accessory, I use it to clip on to my golf bag since I walk most of the time. On the rare round where I ride in a power cart, just keep the GPS in the cup holder and take it with me when I get to my ball. Don't have car charger, charge it at home after 2 rounds. Topping off rechargeable batteries will decrease their capacity over time.

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SGX hat

The world can be strange at times. Thursday I got my SGXw in the mail and on Saturday my wife wanted to go to Good Will store for their half price day and what did I find but a like new white Sky Caddie SGX hat. it's the older SGX hat but with some thinking I believe I can add the WiFi part of the logo and be good.
I WAS able to download a few of the detailed maps for the courses I play most on my used SGX as part of the 30 day free trial. I wasn't sure it would work being a used unit but after I linked up with my home WiFi I was able to download some maps with ease. Pretty fast download times so that was inpressive.

IF any one is looking to get a new toy for your collection, these used SGX and SGXw units are going for some really attractive prices right now on Ebay. There was one with a starting price of $89.00 with FREE shipping that got SERO bids Sunday. Not sure what this says about the number of units available right now, but the prices are pretty good for GPS that sold for $399.99 New earlier this year.

Don

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You know I'm wondering what's

You know I'm wondering what's next for Skycaddie? They've got the watches coming out now which I don't really like. I don't like to wear a watch while I play but I also like the features of the skycaddie, getting a full view of the hole and the moveable cross hairs to get a distance to a point.

But I wonder what they are about to release, as the SGX and SGXw have been out for a while. I was curious if in their next bag of tricks is a slope version, but since they have the PGA tour contract, I thought maybe they'd not do that since it's not tour-legal.

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NEW it Sky Golf

If you go to their website you'll find TWO things of note. First is that the SGX and SGXw are BOTH "Out Of Stock". I assume the reason for this the fact that they have a NEW model coming out any day now, the "TOUCH" model. On their site it says you can order one now, but when I tried that to see what the price was, it told me this option was "Coming Soon", so they were not available to order as of last week. But I did get an email from Golfsmith telling me to come in and buy one for $299, so I assume they will be available pretty soon.. I don't know if Golfsmith has any in stock or if they are taking orders for them at this time.

But "IF" you think you might like one of the SGXw models, you might want to check E-bay today. They have a NEW SGXw up for auction at this time with a high bid of only $65 as of about an hour ago. This is the same SGXw that was selling for $399.99 not that long ago. While it's always NICE to buy the latest new toys, I don't know IF I would want a touch screen GPS out on the course. Finger prints on the screen would only make reading it that much harder in the bright sunlight, so I'm leaning toward the older models, like the SGXw that I just got in.
On a personal note, I'm just HOPING that it was a good sign from the Golf Gods when I found that SGX hat last weekend at GoodWill. I'm hoping it was a sign that buying the SGXw as the right move on my part. Either that or I screwed up twice, first by buying the GPS and second buying the dumb hat.

Don

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DON
October shipping for Touch Model

I asked about the shipping date for the new Touch unit and was told they will ship in October. The price will be $299.99 if anyone cares. I think getting like new SGX wifi model for a lot less was a good choice for me. I don't NEED the latest model of new toys. I'll let other buy the latest toys at the highest prices.

Don

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SGXw prices on E-Bay???

I'm starting to feel really good about what I paid for my SGXw on E-Bay 2 weeks ago. Today I see that the exact same company that I got mine from is auctioning off the exact same unit that I got, with a belt clip I didn't get, and the current high bid is $227.50. WAY more than what I paid with a Buy It Now option. Two weeks ago there was a Brand New SGXw up for sale at $225, so this used one in Mint condition is going to sell for more than the new one did. People go crazy at times on E-bay with the auctions. If I'm not wrong, you can buy a factory re-furbished SGXw from Sky Golf for less than $227.50, and they come with a 90 day warranty. Just crazy to bid that much for a used one.

Don

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DON
Battery life for SGXw

Since I got my SGXw I read some comments on a site with a review of the unit. The review of the SGXw was that it was an Excellent GPS with great features. The guy loved the WiFi feature. At the end of the review there were some NOT so great comments from readers that are NOT in love with the SGZw or any other Sky Golf products. One big complaint about the SGXw is the battery life being to short. Seems that the SGX battery life is fine, good for two rounds on a charge. But the SGXw with the Wifi feature has a battery life of about HALF of that. I can totally understand WHY this is the case. My wife and I own 3 tablets between us and the WiFi feature on them KILLS the battery if we leave the WiFi turned on. With the Wifi turned OFF it takes 4 hours to fully charge the battery, But if the WiFi is turned on, it can take up to 10 hours to charge. Battery life is less than HALF with the WiFi turned on compare to having it turned OFF. Problem with the SGXw is that you can NOT turn the Wifi OFF when you don't NEED it. Only time you really use the Wifi is when you download the detailed course maps. Other than that you don't need it. WHY they didn't make it so the WiFi could be turned off is a good question. My bet is that they did NOT think of it when they wrote the software, which is pretty sad.
In truth, all I really care about is getting ONE round of golf in on a charge. I don't play more than 18 holes in one day, so I'm fine with going home and re-charging the unit before my next round.

Don

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Scott Rushing
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The key for me is remembering

The key for me is remembering to charge it. I get about 1.5 rounds in before its dead. Gto to the course yesterday and it was dead. So Just used the laser and was fine since I knew that course very well. I usually also carry a smalll USB battery pack ($25 bucks or so on Amazon) that I can plug it up to which again usually will get me through that round. The early Skycaddies had replaceable batteries and I honestly wish the new ones did too. I can carry some extra AAA batteries easily in my golf bag!!!

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Re-charge

Over the weekend I saw an ad for a Solar power supply for re-charging cell phones and other such items while outdoors. It looks like you could mount the panel on the side of your golf bag and use it to keep the battery charged during your round. I didn't catch the name of the unit nor the company that sold it so I'll have to do a web search and see what I can find. IF the price is decent, it might be worth trying it out. Most of todays devices take a 5V charger, so it might work for your cell phone or your GPS.

Don

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Aimee
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charging

that's the one down side when I researched for my husband when he wanted to get one of the GPS watches, most people complained that it didn't hold a charge long enough for 2 rounds...so when we get home, he takes it off and plugs it in to the wall charger. Not that inconvenient unless you are one of those guys who plays 36 holes/day.
Since my old SkyCaddie doesn't have GPS, it seems to hold a charge for around 10 hours, enough for 2 rounds. I'm guessing some of the newer units with color displays may drain batteries faster. It's just a matter of time before a golf GPS comes out with the built-in solar cell, it seems a "no-brainer".

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Yeah, I just bought a newer

Yeah, I just bought a newer battery pack for the bag so if it starts getting low during the round at least the new battery should carry me through. I try to remember to charge it but sometimes I forget...especially if it was a bad round, HA!

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Power Down?

I was thinking it would be nice if the GPS units had a cover plate, like a FLIP Phone. Then you could close the flip cover and it would Power Down to save the battery while you walk to your ball. When you get neat the ball you just flop it open and the display comes back on and it's ready to use. I'm sure this feature would save a LOT of battery usage while you walk to the ball, especially for the longer hitters out there. This would be an EASY feature to add to the GPS. My cell phone is OLD and it has this exact same feature so I know it's been done before. Why not copy this simple feature to save the battery? Makes sense to me.

Don

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Scott Rushing
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Hey Don,

Hey Don,

If you have one of those torx bits, and you'e OK doing it, pop the back off your unit and see if the battery is actually replacable. I'm reading it may not be something the owner can replace. But I don't have one of those bits so I can't open mine up.

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Battery

I just took the back off of my SGXw to look at the battery. It connects to the main board with a small connector, like you see with computers. it's just a 1/4" wide 4 wire connector, so it shouldn't be an issue removing the battery and installing a replacement one. "What I am finding is that the battery seems to be held in place with maybe "Double Sided Tape" of some kind. I'm not sure if it would damage the battery if I tried to Pry it off the main board, so I'm not going to risk it. As far is connecting a new battery I don't see a problem. Problem might be in damaging the old battery if you pry it off the board it's stuck to with some type of adhesive. y GUESS is that they use adhesive to keep the battery from Rattling Around inside the case, which would make sense. Other than that I don't see any reason for the adhesive, and I would think you could leave out the adhesive if you wanted to have a spare battery so you can switch them out during a round if need be. The way the case fits. I "DOUBT" that you would NEED to use the screws to hold the back cover on IF you use one of the Silicone Skins that fit on the unit. That way the SKIN would hold the cover in place and make it simple to change out the battery as needed. I hoe this helps and I'll be checking on the batteries I've seen on E-bay to see if the power rating is the same or not. This battery is a 1800 mAh battery. If the aftermarket batteries ate of a higher rating, this could be the answer to the short battery life of the factory battery. I'll let you know what I find out.

Don

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DON
Replacement battery

I just looked at the replacement batteries sold for the SGX and SGXw units. The factory battery is rated at 1800 mAh, and the ones being sold are ALL listed as 2000 mAh . So that would be right at 11% more battery life, which might be all it would take to finish a round. I sent a question to three of the sources for these batteries asking if it would be a problem to remove the original battery and if I would be able to switch out batteries during a round if needed. I'll let you know if I hear back and what they tell me.
IF you go to the listing for these batteries you will see how it connects to the unit with a small four wire connector. The batteries run from less then $13 up to $18 or so, Not bad for a replacement battery that SkyGolf charges over $40 to replace plus around $20 for shipping both ways.

Don

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DON
Touch no shipping yet

About a month ago I checked the Sky Golf site and it said the Touch models would ship in October. NOW I notice that this has gone "Back" to "Coming Soon", which is what they said two months ago. Seems they have been taking "Pre-Orders" for this model since early March with a promised shipping date of a "FEW WEEKS". PLUS they not only take your order, but the "CHARGE" your credit card at the same time. So there are hundreds of would be customers and return customers that have PAID for a new Touch GPS unit and have "NOTHING" to show for their money. NOT the way to run a company in my opinion, and hundreds of unhappy customers are disgusted with the lack of support from SkyGolf. Many of their old customer SOLD their previous model unit when they ordered the new one, so they have NO GPS to use for up to 8 MONTHS and COUNTING.

Don

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DON
Scott

This is the question I asked of the battery sellers on E-Bay.

I'm looking to buy a new battery for my SGXw and I took off the battery cover and notice that the battery is held in place pretty solidly. It seems like it's held in place with some type of adhesive. Is this going to be a problem if I buy a battery? Will the old battery come out without damaging either the SGXw or the original battery? I want to be able to switch out the batteries during a round if I run out of power. Will this be a problem?

I'll post any reply I get from the 3 sellers I asked this question.

Don

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Scott Rushing
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Thanks Don. I'll be

Thanks Don. I'll be interested in seeing what they say. I have a pretty sharp exact-o knife that I might could use to separate the adhesive. I guess I will hold off replacing it until the current battery loses a little more capacity. But I'm glad to know it is possible.

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I got back two replies to my

I got back two replies to my question on removing the battery. One company said they have NOT changed out any batteries from this type of device, so they can't tell me anything. The other said the IF I had the right tools I might be able to do it, They then recommended that I ask a friend to look at the unit. one with MORE knowledge of working on things. Then they suggested looking to see it there might be a VIDEO on you-tube about changing the battery of an SGX that would help.
Bottom line is that neither of the two replies was of much if any help.

The problem that I see in removing the battery is that the EDGES of the battery or NOT hard plastic. The battery is MORE like a plastic POUCH type of thing. NOT HARD all the way around, but SOFT on the edges. This means I could DAMAGE the battery when I try to remove it. IF the battery were DEAD, that would not be a problem. But IF you want to SAVE the battery so you can switch it out and go back and forth with a new one as needed, then it becomes an issue. You could buy TWO new batteries and not worry about the original one since they only cost $12.50 or so per battery. Then you could install the new battery WITHOUT using any adhesive at all and then you could change out the battery as needed during a round. Since the replacement batteries are only $12.50 each, you could buy TWO batteries not just one. Then IF you damage the original battery when you remove it your will have two NEW ones ready to use. IF you don't damage to original battery when you first remove it you could buy just one new battery. IF you want to remove the original battery FIRST, you can do that and buy one or two new batteries depending on IF you damage it or not. If your current battery is losing power, you don't have that much to lose by removing it. Either you have to buy one or two new ones so you have an investment of either $12.50 or $25.00 total. Free shipping either way.

Don

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DON
Factory replacement of battery

For what it's worth. Sky Golf CAN replace the battery if you send the unit to them. They charge around $50.00 for this service. Then add in $15.00 t0 $20.00 more for shipping both ways. You then have ONE battery NOT two. So it's a LOT cheaper to buy a battery or two if needed online at $12.50 each and have a back-up when needed. This is exactly what I would do if the battery in my SGXw every gets weak or dies. I like $12.50 a lot better than $65.00 to $70.00.

Don

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DON
Silicone skins for SGX

I just purchased a White silicone skin for my SGXw off E-bay. They were selling them for $9.99 with free shipping but had a 'Make an Offer" option. So I offered them $5.00 and they accepted my offer. If you are going to buy a skin for your SGX check out E-bay and look for the ad from Second Swing Golf. That's where I got mine from for $5.00.

I just posted this in the Range Finder topic and wanted to copy it here in case some of you don't read it in the range finder subject. Sorry to repeat it but it might be worth it to some so I did it.

Don

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Aimee
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battery

another thought, since the battery is secured with adhesive/tape, it must be for a reason (like to hold still so as to not disrupt the contacts). If you decide to remove the old one, perhaps put a strip of velcro inside, then velcro onto the battery pouch, that way you hold it in place in a non-permanent way.

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Why the Adhesive?

I think the only reason for the adhesive is so the battery will NOT move around and rattle inside the unit. The connector has a long enough wire so it would NOT be a problem if the battery were to move inside the unit. only make noise and feel weird. IF I ever do remove the original battery and remove what ever type of adhesive there may be under it. I plan to install the new battery with NO adhesive and then just lay a thin piece of FOAM sheeting between the battery and the cover. This will hold it in place so it will not rattle and it will not interfere should I need to change out the battery during a round. I have some 1/8: thick foam sheets that came with electronic items I've purchased over the years that I save for packaging material when I need to ship something, and it would be perfect for this use.

Don

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DON
Question reply I got

Dear thexassist,

I'm looking to buy a new battery for my SGXw and I took off the battery cover and notice that the battery is held in place pretty solidly. It seems like it's held in place with some type of adhesive. Is this going to be a problem if I buy a battery? Don't know

Will the old battery come out without damaging either the SGXw or the original battery? Don't know

I want to be able to switch out the batteries during a round if I run out of power. Will this be a problem? Don't know

Sorry, we cannot be of much help. All we can say is lot of customers have bought this battery.

Thanks

- smavstore

This is a copy of my question and the answer I got from one of the sellers of the batteries. NOT much help I'm sad to say.

Don

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Thanks Don. That seems to be

Thanks Don. That seems to be the general feedback around the web, that you can use the Skygolf service but everyone says it's a risk to try and replace it yourself. I think I will hold on to the battery and wait until my unit isn't charging enough to make it through a round and then try it. Worst case I'll have to buy a GPS but I probably would have at that point anyway, right?

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I really DOUBT that you would

I really DOUBT that you would damage the GPS just by removing the battery. You might damage the original battery, but NOT the GPS itself. Worst case would be you ruin the battery and have to buy a new one for $12.50. That's way less than the cost of a new GPS unit. As the one battery company told me, they have sold lots of the batteries for the SGX and SGXw. So be BRAVE my friend and don't worry about it if you ruin the battery. If you do, you can buy a new one, or maybe two and have a spare to change out during a long round or if you play 36 holes in one day.

Don

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DON
Silicone skins

Scott. Here is a link to the seller I got my skin from. I offered them $5.00 and they accepted. Good luck.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-SkyCaddie-SGX-SGXW-Silicone-Skin-White-Golf-...

Don

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