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#12169 - 08/09/06 03:47 PM
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just wondering , whats your opinions on adams golf clubs. I recently purchased the gt2 undercuts and im pretty happy with them.you see adams on the tour yet there pretty inexspensive,whats you take thanks
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#12170 - 08/10/06 05:46 AM
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Jag, Welcome to the forum, you will get some good advice from the forum and even the reviews section of the site.
There was a review on the front page of the Adams hybrids they just released. I don't know where the archive reviews are but somebody can tell you. Anyway the review was quite complimentary of the clubs and gave a positive review.
Myself, I have never hit the irons, but I would definitely demo some before buying another set. Currently I'm quite happy my old Ping Eye2's though.
I do have an Adams GT 3 Wood and a 430Q driver and I also have a 460Redline driver in the closet. Personally for the money you can't beat them.
The 3 wood is pretty forgiving and it really gets the ball in the air and launches it. If I can get my fade to moderate fade to slice out of swing I would use it a lot more often. Although this past week I've worked on a few things that is slowly getting that out of my swing, thanks to the advice from this forum.
The 3 wood is great in my opinion though my experience with other 3 woods are slightly limited. Maybe somebody else can verify this for me.
The 430Q driver is their version of the Taylormade R7 with the 4 moveable weights and with a composite top. I'm not fond of the sound it makes even on sweetspot impacts but the off sweetspot shots don't sound very good. I have an older Titleist 975 and I like the way it sounds better but I believe b/c it doesn't have the composite top like the Adams.
Who cares about sound though the ball still gets out there, plus you can more easily tell by the sound and feel when you make a mishit. Is this good or bad, you decide? I like to know for sure when I don't get the sweetspot, and I believe the composite topped 430Q is more definitive in telling you when you missed the sweetspot and when you hit it. The all Ti drivers will have a better feel and sound at impact if that is a concern for you, but the 430Q does just fine for me.
Personally I like the 430Q, it gets the ball in the air and any frustrations with a driver are typically generated by my 25+ handicap, hehehe!
For the money, I don't you can beat Adams. I bought 2 430Q's at different times. The first one I ended up giving to my father-n-law because I let him drive with it one day on the course and hit it like crazy and hit it straighter and more consistent than his Clevelan Launcher he had. So since he gave me the set of Pings I have, I gave him the 430Q. Now that he is getting more used to it he really likes and has had several drives further than he has ever hit a driver (around the 310+ mark). If you make good contact with this club it will go. As to how that compares to an R7, I don't know? I do know I will not be paying $400 for a driver, ever.
I bought both the 430Q's NEW off ebay for around $100/each after shipping at different times. One came with a Blue ProLaunch 65g shaft and the one I currently have came with an Adilia NV 65g. For the money, the drivers and woods I would recommend, but I can't speak for the irons.
How do you like the GT2's?
Wow, sorry to ramble like that but hope it helped. later, Jody
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#12171 - 08/10/06 07:12 AM
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Jag, Welcome to the site. I have been lucky enough to have reviewed some of Adams Golf's newest releases. Here's a links to one of the articles: http://www.golf-gear-review.com/advertorial-display.php?ID=1821There's some sort of glitch to the "Article Archives" right now in case anyone was wondering. I've talked to our Site Admin Chris about it, and he said he'll be working on fixing it shortly. There's also a review of the Adams 460 Dual driver and RPM Low Profile Tour fairway wood that I had completed. Adams is a company that's really on the move, and heading in a good direction with their equipment. I have been very impressed with their recent clubs. They also have a set of forged "players" irons that will soon be released that I am eagerly waiting to review, which are based on the sets of irons their Touring Pros use. Allen Doyle won the Senior U.S. Open with that set. Adams is starting to branch out to the PGA Tour now as well, and continues to dominate the Champions Tour. Many PGA tour players are now starting to use the Adams A2 Tour-issued hybrids, and Adams even has Bubba Dickerson on staff on the PGA Tour now. Trevor Immelman, when he won earlier this season for example, had an A2 Tour hybrid in the bag, even though he is a Nike staffer. I have not hit the A2 or A2 iron sets, but I have heard very good things about them and they have been leading the retail iron sales for a number of months. I have at least hit the A2 and A2OS hybrids that are included in those sets, and they are excellent. If the accompanying irons are anything like the hybrids, they must be good too. I can't say I have always been a fan of the Adams gear, but they are really putting out some great stuff now. 
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#12172 - 08/10/06 11:26 AM
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Thanks for the feedback guys,I was just curious because ive heard people say if your not paying an arm and a leg for clubs then they must be junk which i really dont think is true,I think Adams realizes not everyone can be Donald Trump and go out and buy A set of taylor made clubs for 1,000 bucks which i think is absolutely rediculous for a piece of steel.I paid $150 for my adams irons 3-PW and ive also used taylor mades and i dont see the $900 difference if anything the adams are more forgiving and feel better.What do you guys think of the prices on the high end clubs?
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#12174 - 08/10/06 12:26 PM
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I think it is ridiculous in cases like link below. R7 TP Just when you thought $400 was too high for a driver, Taylormade raises the bar. I'm going to try and demo one of these and compare it to my 430Q just grins.  Paying the price for a driver that could easily buy top of the line iron set is getting, take that back, it is surpassing absurdity. The avg "joe" will probably not be able to tell the difference because they don't have the consistent swing of a pro. Now maybe some clubs feel better at impact and in weight and this is due to the individual and what they like to feel. Once again, I will never pay $400-$500 for a driver. The point is in this discussion is if you like the way a club feels and you hit it well and you are pleased with it on the golf course, who cares what the brand is. Adams is gaining more and more respect and their quality on the driver and woods are good and aren't inferior. If the club is quality made, you strike the ball well, like the feel, and you are satisfied with it, this is what matters. Enjoy them and go beat the guys playing with Callaway X-18 Tours and R7's TP then rub it in how much they paid for those clubs.  No don't do that, you might catch an R7 across the throat.
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#12179 - 08/10/06 02:08 PM
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I'd have to say Adams makes a decent set of "imtemediate level" golf clubs. Nothing to get excited about, and nothing to really complain about either. BUT, I will say I have only seen two drivers break the past 4 years, and both of them were Adams drivers. In the case of the first one, the shaft was installed with next to no epoxy, so the shaft broke right at the top of the hosel. In the second driver, the shaft again broke at the top of the hosel, but this time there was plenty of epoxy holding the shaft, so it might have been a bad shaft. What ever, it was in the end, two bad drivers from Adams Golf. While 2 broken clubs in 4 years isn't a lot, it's more than all the other OEM's combined, and I'm not looking to buy a new Adams club any time soon. That may be a over response on my part, but it's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
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#12180 - 08/10/06 03:16 PM
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Don, that interesting about the breaking drivers. For sure that would be a concern when buying a club and that does bug me, because I think the qualifty of my 3 wood and drivers I bought have been good. But how do you know until it breaks, right?
Divots, I noticed the 430Q's were $199. When I got my 430Q off ebay it had an Edwin Watts price tag of $399 on it. I guess they unloaded their surplas to the person I bought it from, but I can say I'm quited pleased with mine for $100 after shipping.
Now I didn't mean to offend any of you guys that buy $900 irons and $700 drivers, but I was just making a point that for the avg golfer (I'm assuming Jag is a typical golfer), it just doesn't mean a great deal in paying that kind of money, when only a pro or avid low handicapper could tell a difference in clubs.
The most important thing in playing good golf is the person holding the stick and a set of high priced clubs will not improve an avg golfers game that much, IMO.
Just my 2 cents. Later, Jody
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#12183 - 08/10/06 03:53 PM
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Im with you jody,I think also its the person holding the club. and Don as for the adams driver breaking, my friends brand new Ping drivers head went flying as far as the golf ball at the driving range recently ,now im no golf wizard but i know ping is top of the line and high priced, but for the money you pay for them compared to cheaper equipment not only should it stay in one piece, you should be able to use it as a magic wand.IM not trying to ruffle any feathers, just creating discussion
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#12184 - 08/10/06 07:09 PM
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I'd have to say Adams makes a decent set of "imtemediate level" golf clubs. Nothing to get excited about, and nothing to really complain about either. BUT, I will say I have only seen two drivers break the past 4 years, and both of them were Adams drivers. In the case of the first one, the shaft was installed with next to no epoxy, so the shaft broke right at the top of the hosel. In the second driver, the shaft again broke at the top of the hosel, but this time there was plenty of epoxy holding the shaft, so it might have been a bad shaft. What ever, it was in the end, two bad drivers from Adams Golf. While 2 broken clubs in 4 years isn't a lot, it's more than all the other OEM's combined, and I'm not looking to buy a new Adams club any time soon. That may be a over response on my part, but it's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
Don, Which of Adams Golf's newest products have you hit? Any? If you haven't hit any of their recent clubs, you are missing out, and quite frankly, giving people the wrong impression of the brand with regard to the products they are putting out NOW.
I sent you a private message about this.
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#12185 - 08/11/06 08:48 AM
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Don, Which of Adams Golf's newest products have you hit? Any? If you haven't hit any of their recent clubs, you are missing out, and quite frankly, giving people the wrong impression of the brand with regard to the products they are putting out NOW
To answer your question, it was a brand new Adams Ovation driver that broke 2 weeks ago, after one week of use. The first driver was a 460cc Adams Redline driver that broke, also one of their newer models I believe. Does that answer your question for you?
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#12186 - 08/11/06 09:01 AM
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Don, Which of Adams Golf's newest products have you hit? Any? If you haven't hit any of their recent clubs, you are missing out, and quite frankly, giving people the wrong impression of the brand with regard to the products they are putting out NOW
To answer your question, it was a brand new Adams Ovation driver that broke 2 weeks ago, after one week of use. The first driver was a 460cc Adams Redline driver that broke, also one of their newer models I believe. Does that answer your question for you?
The Redline is 3 years old and the Ovation 2 years old. Both "closeout" clubs, and the Ovation was their "2nd tier" model behind the RPM series. There is "new" and "new to you." The drivers you saw fail were of the latter variety.
Please hit the RPM 460 Dual and tell me it's a piece of crap. Hit their A2 hybrid and tell me it's junk. Hit their RPM Low Profile fairway woods and tell me they are rubbish. Puglielli Wedges. How were those? Are they junk too?
I have actually HIT these clubs Don. I know what they are capable of, and I am familiar with their quality. I have seen clubs fail from virtually every manufacturer. Those included "top of the line" models and not just "closeout" items that could be picked up for $50.
If you are not familiar with their newest products as well as what they formerly produced, it's tough to make an informed decision on where a brand was and where they are now. I agree that they have not made some of the best products in the past. But if you are not able to look beyond that, then your information is just outdated. Adams is making some very nice equipment now. Take a look at it, hit it, and please report back afterwards so you can provide people with a fair assessment of the brand overall.
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#12187 - 08/11/06 09:04 AM
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Now I didn't mean to offend any of you guys that buy $900 irons and $700 drivers,
$900 per iron? My whole set of irons cost less than what two of those cost.
You got me Bill , obviously my intention was $900 iron set.
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#12188 - 08/11/06 09:09 AM
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The most important thing in playing good golf is the person holding the stick and a set of high priced clubs will not improve an avg golfers game that much, IMO.
Bill, He must be quite the salesman. You didn't buy that line crap did you? 
Sure I expect new tech clubs to yield a bit more distance and more forgiveness for us high handicappers, but it will never get me on the green in 2 on a par 5. That my friend is the user that does that. To a pro there could be some marginal distance and accuracy from one high priced club to a lower tier club and that makes a big difference to them, but for me it means nothing. My swing is nowhere near consistent and my contact fluctuates so that I could never tell the difference except if I like the way it feels during the swing in contact.
That sounds like a good salesman though.
Jody, The guy in the Pro Golf Discount Store told me, in this day of modern technology, I could "Buy A Golf Game" if I spent enough money on all the good stuff.
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#12189 - 08/11/06 01:14 PM
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Mike, do you happen to know the date the Adams Ovation driver was made? Or do you "ASSUME" and only assume, it was made 2 years ago. Some thing tells me they didn't make that driver for only a few days, but more like a year or two. And since when did all "closeout" products become something to "look at as cheaper quality products? We seem to be saying that all of last years model clubs where made to lesser quality control standards than the newest and greatest products being made today. Sorry, that's a bunch of crap. And while you are correct when you state that all OEM's will have a club break now and then, You'll have to forgive me if I don't run out and try out the latest clubs from a company that I have had bad experience with in the past. Two of my friends have been "BURNED", I think that's enough.
YOU ALSO MIGHT WANT TO GO BACK AND RE-READ WHAT I SAID ABOUT ADAM'S GOLF. IF YOU DO, YOU WILL NOTICE THAT I STATED THAT THEY BUILD SOME DECENT CLUBS, I NEVER SAID THAT THEY ONLY BUILD CHEAP JUNK, I BELIEVE YOU ARE THE ONE THAT MENTIONED "crap; junk; rubbish, not my words, but yours.
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#12190 - 08/11/06 02:55 PM
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Hi Jody, I was kidding about the guy in the Pro Golf Discount store. For most of my life I was in the golf business as the pro in two private CC's, played awhile, worked for Arnold Palmer for a few years, was the tournament director for the L.P.G.A. for 8 years. I do spend a lot of money on golf equipment, but I don't buy what someone is selling me, and I get fairly good discounts. Sometimes I don't pay anything. Jody, I will say this, there is a difference in material, design and performance when it comes to top name brands vs a copy type wanna be. Take away the money and everything else, lay out every driver in the world and tell people to test them and take their pick. Guess what, the brands of Titleist, Taylormade, Callaway, etc., etc. will be the ones put in the bags. Will there be some exceptions? Of course, but the technology, the materials used, the matching of shafts will show the advantages of R & D money spent by brand companies. Having written all this, do I think people should, or feel like they have to spend high dollars on golf equipment to have fun? Absolutely not...... For most of the people in the world who love this game, a $500 driver is ridiculous.
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