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#31218 - 05/01/09 05:12 AM April 2009 Giveaway Winner
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Ok, so I've pulled the list of reviews. The total submitted by everyone (including non-forum members) was 103. Therefore I have decided to increase the value of the gift card to $100.


ALSO - To make things interesting, I say we let DocT pick the winner since he graciously did not participate this month. Doc, give me a number between 1 and 103.

This list includes all reviews, so if Doc pics a number of someone that is NOT in the Top Posters (30 Days) list to the left, we will draw again..
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#31224 - 05/01/09 07:05 AM Re: April 2009 Giveaway Winner [Re: ChrisB]
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Go Doc! Go Doc! Pick a good number now...

Hey Chris, the scrolling banner still says 3 day's till the deadline for the april drawing...probably time to kill that...
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#31225 - 05/01/09 07:31 AM Re: April 2009 Giveaway Winner [Re: srushing]
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Yeah, if I only had a programmer working full time I could get to that stuff during the day.. smile Any takers?
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#31226 - 05/01/09 08:11 AM Re: April 2009 Giveaway Winner [Re: ChrisB]
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Somebody needs to wake up DocT and let him know he has been given an asignment, and is needed.

DocT???? Are you out there????
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#31228 - 05/01/09 10:05 AM Re: April 2009 Giveaway Winner [Re: DON]
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Poor Doc, sorry didn't mean to put you on the spot. Ok guys if we don't hear from him by tomorrow I'll ask another independant party to pick the winning number..
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#31230 - 05/02/09 02:54 AM Re: April 2009 Giveaway Winner [Re: ChrisB]
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OK, time to find someone else to pull the random winner. Bill, got yer ears on?
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#31265 - 05/04/09 02:07 AM Re: April 2009 Giveaway Winner [Re: ChrisB]
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Ok, so I did this manually this morning, rather than wait. Here are the qualifying entries for April. I removed myself and MikeD and anyone that did not submit both an equipment and a course review, and was not a member of the Top 30 list. I sorted in Date submission order prior to assigning the contest ID numbers (first column). Here's the list, there appear to be 40:

1 8311 Odyssey Sabertooth Aimee
2 48 1910 shortcoursereview DON
3 47 13479 shortcoursereview Klun
4 8315 TaylorMade R7 Draw selftaughtman
5 50 15890 shortcoursereview selftaughtman
6 52 1834 shortcoursereview DON
7 55 1962 shortcoursereview DON
8 57 2002 shortcoursereview DON
9 56 11108 shortcoursereview srushing
10 60 1867 shortcoursereview DON
11 61 2026 shortcoursereview DON
12 62 10587 shortcoursereview srushing
13 63 1887 shortcoursereview DON
14 8318 Cleveland Monster XLS Tour srushing
15 8319 Cleveland Launcher 09 srushing
16 74 2007 shortcoursereview DON
17 75 1951 shortcoursereview DON
18 81 12246 shortcoursereview Klun
19 101 8687 shortcoursereview Aimee
20 8324 Cobra 2009 S9-1 srushing
21 8325 Nicklaus Jack Nicklaus Tour Series srushing
22 107 3783 shortcoursereview srushing
23 8330 Ping Rapture V2 Aimee
24 8331 Maxfli Black Max Klun
25 114 13223 shortcoursereview Klun
26 8333 Callaway Diablo srushing
27 118 11224 shortcoursereview srushing
28 8334 Callaway Diablo DON
29 8336 TaylorMade R9 DON
30 8337 Cobra S9 Pro Series DON
31 8338 Titleist Spin Milled Wedges DON
32 8339 Callaway Diablo 3 Wood DON
33 8340 Cobra Forged Cavity Back DON
34 119 1931 shortcoursereview DON
35 8344 Cobra 2009 S9-1 DON
36 8345 Cleveland Launcher 09 DON
37 8346 Titleist Pro V1 V1X Used DON
38 8347 Aldila NV 65 R and S flexes DON
39 8348 Aldila VooDoo DON
40 8349 Nike Karma Aimee
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#31266 - 05/04/09 02:31 AM Re: April 2009 Giveaway Winner [Re: ChrisB]
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Please review these and let me know if you see any problems. I'll pull the number with Random.org this afternoon.

I need to incorporate something for you guys that submit so many reviews. I'm having a feeling there are others that aren't submitting at all because they don't feel like they have a chance to win. Maybe we can work something out seperately. Please PM me if you have any ideas.
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#31271 - 05/04/09 03:51 AM Re: April 2009 Giveaway Winner [Re: ChrisB]
Aimee Online   content
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Chris, you had said you were going to factor out where old reviews from (I believe) Scott and Don were transferred over into the new format (or something like that) because it skewed the amount of reviews, it appears you still have all of them on that overall list?
Also, as a suggestion, most contests say you are not eligible in the month following a win. So that way you spread it around a bit.


Edited by Aimee (05/04/09 03:54 AM)
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#31272 - 05/04/09 03:55 AM Re: April 2009 Giveaway Winner [Re: Aimee]
ChrisB Offline

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Actually, that list was MUCH longer Aimee. I deleted a BUNCH of course reviews from DON and srushing but I will review again for accuracy. It's possible there were some I didn't notice.
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#31273 - 05/04/09 03:57 AM Re: April 2009 Giveaway Winner [Re: ChrisB]
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I like the suggestion of not being able to win two months in a row. Will take that under consideration - it seems reasonable.
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#31278 - 05/04/09 04:58 AM Re: April 2009 Giveaway Winner [Re: ChrisB]
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Alright, looks like I missed out on the fun. Sorry for my absence. I was busy since Thursday night with a colicky baby and went through a rough weekend.

Good luck to everyone!
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#31282 - 05/04/09 06:09 AM Re: April 2009 Giveaway Winner [Re: DocT]
ChrisB Offline

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That's OK Doc, I was sort of shooting from the hip this weekend anyway, completely disorganized.. haha.

Ok, here's the updated list, further filtered excluding some additional reviews that were from the old database:


1 8311 Odyssey Sabertooth Aimee
2 47 13479 shortcoursereview Klun
3 8315 TaylorMade R7 Draw selftaughtman
4 50 15890 shortcoursereview selftaughtman
5 8318 Cleveland Monster XLS Tour srushing
6 8319 Cleveland Launcher 09 srushing
7 101 8687 shortcoursereview Aimee
8 8324 Cobra 2009 S9-1 srushing
9 8325 Nicklaus Jack Nicklaus Tour Series srushing
10 107 3783 shortcoursereview srushing
11 8330 Ping Rapture V2 Aimee
12 8331 Maxfli Black Max Klun
13 114 13223 shortcoursereview Klun
14 8333 Callaway Diablo srushing
15 118 11224 shortcoursereview srushing
16 8334 Callaway Diablo DON
17 8336 TaylorMade R9 DON
18 8337 Cobra S9 Pro Series DON
19 8338 Titleist Spin Milled Wedges DON
20 8339 Callaway Diablo 3 Wood DON
21 8340 Cobra Forged Cavity Back DON
22 119 1931 shortcoursereview DON
23 8344 Cobra 2009 S9-1 DON
24 8345 Cleveland Launcher 09 DON
25 8346 Titleist Pro V1 V1X Used DON
26 8347 Aldila NV 65 R and S flexes DON
27 8348 Aldila VooDoo DON
28 8349 Nike Karma Aimee

I will visit Random.org around 1pm EST (at the end of lunch as I am at work) to pull the number. Stay Tuned!
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#31284 - 05/04/09 08:34 AM Re: April 2009 Giveaway Winner [Re: ChrisB]
DON Offline

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I think the last list looks right. All my old course reviews have been removed, so it looks correct as far as my reviews are concerned.

I really don't understand how ANYONE can have a problem with their chances of winning. If each review counts as ONE chance to win, everyone that submits a review has an equal chance to win the prize. Everyone can submit mulitple reviews on more course or equipment, to give themselves more chances to win. How is this unfair?
The same can be said for winnig back to back months. If anyone doesn't like it that say DotT wins two months in a row. All they have to do to prevent it is submit more reviews than DotT does, and they can win back to back months.

Bottom line is if a member submits just 2 reviews, his or her chance to win will be half that of a member that submits 4 reviews the same month. Isn't that the way it should work? The solution to their complaint is to just submit more reviews themselves, and maybe it will be them that wins all the time.

In April, Scott posted 7 reviews, so he has 7 chances of winning. I submitted 12 reviews. so I have 12 chances of winning. Aimee posted 4 reviews, so she has 4 chances of winning. Same thing for Klun (3)and Selftaughtman, (2). Isn't that the way it should be? Want more chances to win. SUBMIT MORE REVIEWS.
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#31287 - 05/04/09 08:49 AM Re: April 2009 Giveaway Winner [Re: DON]
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Well certainly:

a) Can't please everyone -and-
b) If it ain't broke don't fix it

But I'm always interested in:

c) Always look for a better way

So, while your points are noted, the goal here for the GREATER good is to get more people involved - so this is something we should still explore. Not that preventing an entrant from winning the month following the giveaway is the answer, but it's certainly an option. I'd like to hear more feedback on how to get more people involved.

Anyway, we can continue to discuss.. but more importantly, from Random.org:



And #12 is.... Mr. Klun, congratulations, you are the winner in the April 2009 Giveaway!
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#31288 - 05/04/09 09:35 AM Re: April 2009 Giveaway Winner [Re: ChrisB]
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Thank you!

Oops... I mean...

Congrats Klun!
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#31290 - 05/04/09 11:51 AM Re: April 2009 Giveaway Winner [Re: ChrisB]
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Well, I guess it depends on what's fair. If you want everyone to have the same chances, then you do a one-per-player deal. But that dis-incentivizes anyone from filling out more than one review, which helps the site. So I hate to say it but I think the way you're doing it is the fairest. Does that give those that submit more better odds, to a degree yes. They may have 3 chances in 17 as opposed to someone who has 1 chance. Maybe you could limit it to no more than 3 chances, even if you submitted 10 reviews.
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#31292 - 05/04/09 12:55 PM Re: April 2009 Giveaway Winner [Re: srushing]
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Congradulations Klun. Here's a perfect example of how a person with only 3 reviews can still win out over someone that had 12 reviews. It's still a matter of luck of the draw. Klun got lucky, and I didn't. Oh Well. I'll try again in the May contest.
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#31314 - 05/05/09 10:56 AM Re: April 2009 Giveaway Winner [Re: DON]
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woo hoo!!!

Thanks!!!

:tigerfistpump:

Feels like I just won the Masters
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#31316 - 05/05/09 04:49 PM Re: April 2009 Giveaway Winner [Re: Klun]
ChrisB Offline

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Maybe you can get something to help your game Klun, LOL... smile
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#31317 - 05/05/09 05:23 PM Re: April 2009 Giveaway Winner [Re: ChrisB]
Klun Offline
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Chris, I'd need a game first before I could get anything to help it
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#31318 - 05/05/09 05:43 PM Re: April 2009 Giveaway Winner [Re: Klun]
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I don't know bud, I think everyone's a little rusty this time of year.
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#31328 - 05/06/09 05:56 AM Re: April 2009 Giveaway Winner [Re: ChrisB]
DON Offline

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I see Klun picking up some cases of beer and a few bottles of the good stuff you that Mancation you guys are planning for not too long down the road. If not, I'll make you a good deal on a set of irons Klun. I happen to have a spare set around here somewhere.
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#31329 - 05/06/09 06:08 AM Re: April 2009 Giveaway Winner [Re: DON]
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Chris,

What about later in the summer when I have a few rounds under my belt
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#31330 - 05/06/09 06:46 AM Re: April 2009 Giveaway Winner [Re: Klun]
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Then there's no excuse my friend..
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#31338 - 05/06/09 10:54 AM Re: April 2009 Giveaway Winner [Re: ChrisB]
Klun Offline
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But what if it's because i've already had a few rounds???
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#31340 - 05/06/09 11:38 AM Re: April 2009 Giveaway Winner [Re: Klun]
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I can see a nasty circle going "round" here any second now.
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#31341 - 05/06/09 11:43 AM Re: April 2009 Giveaway Winner [Re: DON]
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Yeah, I think I'm going to duck out of this one, nothing can end good that starts this way, a-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha...
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#31351 - 05/07/09 02:50 AM Re: April 2009 Giveaway Winner [Re: ChrisB]
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OK OK OK...I won't let this thread turn into something it's not. wink

Chris -- I do want to thank you for running your contests, especially since I won April's contest.

And, if I may go back, I have just entered in my purchase order for the Nickent 4DX Ironwood with V2 Graphite Shaft 3Hybrid. Hopefully this will improve my long iron shots. Now, I just need to figure out if I should remove my cheap 5W or my 3I as I will keep my 1I in my bag.
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#31413 - 05/09/09 04:23 AM Re: April 2009 Giveaway Winner [Re: Klun]
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Well, I just received my shipping confirmation...My new 3H should arrive on Tuesday...This will give me a chance to try it out on Friday and then I can review it and the course that we play for the May contest.
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