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#32154 - 06/02/09 09:35 AM
Re: You make the call.
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#32162 - 06/02/09 10:47 AM
Re: You make the call.
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Unfortunity, Bill is correct as always. I say unfortunitly, because I think it stinks that the golfer putting gets a penality due to the guy tending the flag being too slow removing it from the cup. But that's the rule. I don't think it's right, but it's the rule. And next question. Why wouldn't someone tending a flag, not just pull the flag stick out of the hole, and set the tip of the stick down just behind the back of the cup? This would eliminate the chance of this happening, and remove the chance of the flag getting stuck in the bottom of the cup, which we all know can happen. The golfer would be able to see the hole okay, which is really the only reason to have someone tend the flag. And the chance of a penality is removed. Sorry to complain about the rules, but I really hate to see a golfer get a penality due to his opponent being too slow to react. If it was his OWN caddy, I could go along with the penality, but not his opponent.
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#32163 - 06/02/09 10:58 AM
Re: You make the call.
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I just thought of something about Bill's answer. IF the flag was left in on purpose, the attending golf is DQ-ed. If he was just a little slow and it was an accident, it's a 2 stroke penaliy for the golfer putting.
This is very interesting. I say this because most of the rules of golf do not allow for human judgement to come into play, It's either this or it's that. In this case, the opponent, could have done it on purpose, and just pulled the stick at the last second to make it look like he was trying to do the job. Or he could have just been slow, and it was an accident. HOW DOES ANYONE KNOW FOR SURE?
And if it was declared an "ACCIDENT", Then why is it a penality on the golfer putting? and not on the opponent that had the "ACCIDENT" ?
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#32171 - 06/02/09 11:45 AM
Re: You make the call.
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If he was just a little slow and it was an accident, it's a 2 stroke penaliy for the golfer putting.
In this case, the opponent, could have done it on purpose, and just pulled the stick at the last second to make it look like he was trying to do the job. Or he could have just been slow, and it was an accident. HOW DOES ANYONE KNOW FOR SURE?
And if it was declared an "ACCIDENT", Then why is it a penality on the golfer putting? and not on the opponent that had the "ACCIDENT" ? Being a little slow to pull the pin is not considered an accident. An accident would be if the pin were stuck and wouldn't come out, or if a witness testified the opponent tending the pin was looking away and didn't know they were putting.  If it is declared an accident, the penalty is on the putter because they are responsible for the flagstick while they are making a stroke.  Don, you're looking at this as if the one doing the putting is a victum...................Unfortunately, very seldom is a person a victum, they're usually volunteers. 
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#32196 - 06/03/09 09:49 AM
Re: You make the call.
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Guys, I wasn't saying to LAY the flag stick on the ground behind the hole. I SAID TO PULL THE FLAG, AND THEN PLACE THE TIP OF THE STICK BEHIND THE HOLE, TOUCHING THE GROUND. To make this clearer, you hold the stick vertical, just like it was IN the cup. only you place the tip of the flag stick BEHIND the cup. This in no way can be considered pointing out the line. Your doing the same thing bill suggested, only placing the tip of the stick BEHIND the hole an inch, rather than inside the cup. I don't see any real difference in my suggestion and what Bill mentioned.
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